
Today as I was walking the Streets of Capitol Hill in Denver, I was deep in thought as usual. But not so deeply in thought that I felt compelled to think about only one thing and chew on it like a dog with a bone. There was lightness in my thinking today but twas about a deadly serious subject, especially to Americans.
As I walked I tried to look at it from different angles and perspectives.
My ruminating topic today was PATRIOTISM and what it is. It comes out in Kiwis in a VERY different way to how it does in Americans, and why was that and was it in itself a good or a bad thing.
That was hours ago and its snowed since then BUT I will try to recapture those thoughts as I walked down Ogden St not worried about taking photos today but having fun thinking.
Why think about patriotism @ all? I don’t know what started it but it was definitely a distillation of many thoughts & feelings I have had while being here.
Perhaps too it was the processing of a really neat evening with some Indian friends and hearing them discuss the recent and historical happenings in India, and their responses to it and the responses of their friends still in India.
During the converstaion and discussion I know I did say that I found it very hard dealing with Americo-centric perspectives on history, contemporary times and the perceived importance of America in all that.
I also confess to watching Fox, Sean Hannity & Bill O Reilly & Greta. I kind of have a love hate relationship with these guys, I am philosphicaly aligned with them in that I am a conservative, but in other ways they are like little kids who need a dose of discipline that will maybe open their eyes to how little they listen, and how come they got to get to place where they can splurge their worldviews over the planet, and not really listen to others.
Reilly listens to Miller though. I like Miller.
The word ‘patriot’ often comes up with these guys, ‘real ‘Americans, ‘good’ Americans , ‘true’ Americans, or you sir are a ‘patriot’. AND the problem for me is that I know society needs these men, and we probably share the same faiths and talk to the same God, but they really embarrass me with their arrogance, and how little they really listen to others.
BUT lets get back to ‘patriot’ word.
My thoughts kinda ran something like this.
Is a patriot someone who agrees with Hannity and O’Reilly’s world veiw of what an American should be, the values they should hold etc?
Is a patriot someone who fights for their country?
Is it someone who loves their country no matter what and dies for it?
And so it went.
I find myself getting annoyed with Hannity’s views about America being 5% of the worlds population but doing 100% of the worlds policing. All responses to invitation of course!
And quite simply untrue as a statement.
Now I love New Zealand, being a ‘kiwi’, but you will not find me flying the flag at every opportunity, in my back yard or in any converstation reminding those involved how great NZ’s contribution to the world, or the free world has been etc.
Yet I am proud of my country, it’s place in the world, achievements etc and glad to be associated with it.
American patriotism seems to involve assertions like, ‘the most blessed nation on earth’ one of Sean’s favourites, or ‘America is the greatest nation in the world’….etc
There is no giving of the reference points for such assertions but they are made often and with total belief in them.
Patriotism based on infatuation with an image, unsubstanciated by a track record, to me is ignorant and when repeated over and over, plain U.G.L.Y .
The ugly side of American patriotism is perhaps the repetition of these statements that have not been reflected on or really thought through, thats why they embarrass me. I have said stuff like that in my own life, grand assertions etc and been red faced when challenged.
For starters those kinds of statements seem to elevate themselves to some higher plane of thinking that automatically invalidates Joe or Jackie citizen feeling that perspective about their beloved Timbucktoo, or the states of outer Patagonia.
Some of us don’t say those kinds of things because we know that though we love our country it has its failings as well, all nations are blessed in some way, and of course your own country is the best.
Is then American patriotism as espoused by Mr Hannity and O’Reilly one of complete denial and blindness to Americas weaknesses and stuff ups in the world. In fact that could be quite a list. Unfortuneately especially from Seanthe view seems to be that weaknesses are always the property of the ‘other’ side of the diverse political spectrum.
I JOKE of course .
God I am glad to come from a country that has more than TWO parties in power. You can’t really count the Independents as creating a Tri-partisan political system in America.
Open your eyes Sean.
So what is a patriot?
The question remains. I will get some definitions and paste them here.
I hope, as much as I love Sean and Bill as fellow human beings, that I will find something that doesn’t have such a cringe factor attached. Good pun, coz Bill’s programme where he spouts his opinions to ‘the folks’ under the guise of journalism is called ‘The Factor’.
Here’s Seans and Bills websites, you can check them out while I get some light on patriotism by visiting the wise.
Note: These are good men, America needs them, they just need a dose of humility (Bill) and a few years away from America (Sean). Actually Sean needs a Christmas Carol kind of experience with Americas past.
http://hannity.com
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sean_Hannity
http://www.billoreilly.com/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_O%27Reilly_(commentator)
Patriot Quotes from the wise.
“Patriot: the person who can holler the loudest without knowing what he is hollering about.” Mark Twain
“One of the great attractions o patriotism - it fulfils our worst wishes. In the person of our nation we are able, vicariously, to bully and cheat. Bully and cheat, what’s more, with a feeling that we are profoundly virtuous.
- Aldous Huxley
“It is lamentable, that to be a good patriot one must become the enemy of the rest of mankind.”Voltaire
“He was a great patriot, a humanitarian, a loyal friend - provided, of course, that he really is dead.”
Voltaire
“A patriot must always be ready to defend his country against his government.” Edward Abbey
“True patriotism hates injustice in its own land more than anywhere else.” Clarence Darrow
“The time is fast approaching when to call a man a patriot will be the deepest insult you can offer him. Patriotism now means advocating plunder in the interest of the privileged classes of the particular State system into which we have happened to be born.” Leo Nikolaevich Tolstoy
“A patriot wraps himself around the flag to defend it; a scoundrel wraps it around himself to defend himself” author unknown
“The same ambition can destroy or save, and make a patriot as it makes a knave.” Alexander Pope
“PATRIOT, n. One to whom the interests of a part seem superior to those of the whole. The dupe of statesmen and the tool of conquerors.” Ambrose Bierce
“In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, Brave, Hated, and Scorned. When his cause succeeds however,the timid join him, For then it costs nothing to be a Patriot.” Mark Twain
“The government is merely a servant — merely a temporary servant; it cannot be its prerogative to determine what is right and what is wrong, and decide who is a patriot and who isn’t. Its function is to obey orders, not originate them.” Mark Twain
“To me a real patriot is like a real friend. Who’s your real friend? It’s the person who tells you the truth. That’s who my real friends are. So, you know, I think as far as our country goes, we need more people who will do that.” Bill Maher
“The patriot’s blood is the seed of Freedom’s tree” Thomas Campbell
“’My country, right or wrong’ is a thing no patriot would ever think of saying except in a desperate case. It is like saying ‘My mother, drunk or sober.’” G. K. Chesterton
“A real patriot is the fellow who gets a parking ticket and rejoices that the system works.” Bill Vaughn
“Patriotism is voluntary. It is a feeling of loyalty and allegiance that is the result of knowledge and belief. A patriot shows their their patriotism through their actions, by their choice.” Jesse Ventura
“O Lord our God, help us to tear their soldiers to bloody shreds with our shells; help us to cover their smiling fields with the pale forms of their patriot dead; help us to drown the thunder of the guns with the shrieks of their wounded, writhing in pain; help us to lay waste their humble homes with a hurricane of fire; help us to wring the hearts of their unoffending widows with unavailing grief… for our sakes who adore Thee, Lord, blast their hopes, blight their lives, protract their bitter pilgrimage, make heavy their steps, water their way with their tears, stain the white snow with the blood of their wounded feet! We ask it, in the spirit of love, of Him Who is the Source of Love, and Who is the ever-faithful refuge and friend of all that are sore beset and seek His aid with humble and contrite hearts. Amen.” Mark Twain
“What could I do but go with them [Civil War soldiers], or work for them and my country? The patriot blood of my father was warm in my veins.” Clara Barton
“I think there is one higher office than president and I would call that patriot.” Gary Hart
“Such is the patriot’s boast, where’er we roam, / His first, best country ever is at home.” Oliver Goldsmith
Are you a politician who says to himself: “I will use my country for my own benefit”?…
Or are you a devoted patriot, who whispers in the ear of his inner self: “I love to serve my country as a faithful servant.”? Kahlil Gibran
“Patriotism is not short, frenzied outbursts of emotion, but the tranquil and steady dedication of a lifetime.” Adlai Stevenson
“That kind of patriotism which consists in hating all other nations.” Elizabeth Gaskell
“But in a larger sense, we cannot dedicate, we cannot consecrate, we cannot hallow this ground. The brave men, living and dead, who struggled here, have consecrated it, far above our poor power to add or to detract. The world will little note nor long remember what we say here, but it can never forget what they did here.”
Abraham Lincoln
Gettysburg Address November 19, 1863
“What then is the American, this new man?…He is an American, who, leaving behind him all his ancient prejudices and manners, receives new ones from the new mode of life he has embraced, the new government he obeys, and the new rank he holds. He becomes an American by being received in the broad lap of our great Alma Mater. Here individuals of all nations are melted into a new race of men, whose labors and posterity will one day cause great changes in the world.” Michel Guillaume Jean de Crevecoeur
“A thoughtful mind, when it sees a Nation’s flag, sees not the flag only, but the Nation itself; and whatever may be its symbols, its insignia, he reads chiefly in the flag the Government, the principles, the truths, the history which belongs to the Nation which belongs to the Nation that sets it forth.” Henry Ward Beecher
Well I better stop there!
That’s enough to think about and varied enough to upon consumption produce the beginnings of a wholesome definition.
I shall return to this…………….
What do you think the definition of a patriot is?
I’d love to know.